Zen position meditation stools / upholstered and designed to maximise comfort when sitting in the Zen position; for a western -person this can be very uncomfortable. ONe places the stool over the heels when kneeling and rests back upon it. Available for inspection and collection in Kew Melbourne. They are about 16 inches X 6'' and about 7-9 inches high. For postage concerns they are over 1.5 kg in weight.