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Posted by: choppachop
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Date Posted: 20/10/2009 - 11:56 AM
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Hi Scott ,
good to see you around .
You posted over on DOL and as I cannot post there anymore ( um ahhh) I put it here as I needed to say ,great post!

In relation to the new laws coming through in Victoria.
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Yes we wouldnt want our dogs mistaken for the killer demon breed now would we?
Another attack with no proof it was an American Pit Bull Terrier.
Has anyone seen pics of the supposed dog?
The guy could have been a RSPCA paid actor for all we know

But yet again the state canine clubs all agree its the best thing by bending over and cutting a breed loose to save theirs
Easier to run to the hills rather than get their breeds caught up in the hysteria.
This could be stopped if every dog breeds club in Australia stood firm and said NO WE WONT ACCEPT THIS!
But no, its not a registered or recognised breed!
Its about to affect your breeds too

Its still a dog damn it!

If the EDBA and APBT club hadnt let personalities and egos clash for the spotlight we could have ALL stopped bsl!

The RS(Peta)A have won the war!

I remember asking the German Shepherd club of Aust for help in saving the APBT, only to be told they wouldnt lift a finger to help, virtually told to F off!



Flame away, someone needed to say this!

Scott








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rebelsyell posted at 25/10/2009 - 8:22 PM
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As most of you already know, Noah, the 7 year old son of Paul Viramontes at Majestic Kennels, was viciously attacked by one of his own dogs a couple of weeks ago. The dog in question was Majestic N KLarr Jolly Roger, aka "Jake". I had Jake here at my own home just days prior to the incident and he interacted with my own children and family as well. I felt the dog was of stable temperament, as did Paul. However, he has had many siblings whose temperaments have gone poor to bad as they got older and reached full sexual maturity. We have also seen similar temperament trends in other relatives, though not to this extent. Due to this fact, that the temperament issues seem to have a clear hereditary component, both Paul and I are STRONGLY urging anyone who owns this pedigree (either Jake's, his siblings, or a linebreeding on relatives), to pay serious attention to any temperament issues. Both of us are completely removing it from our breeding programs, we suggest that anyone owning Jake puppies do the same. Any dogs related to Jake's brothers, particularly overseas, should be very critically evaluated.

This attack was completely unprovoked and the dog intended to do serious harm to both the child and the mother who jumped in to save him. Noah was attacked primarily on the legs (thankfully), and nearly lost his calf muscles. He spent hours in reconstructive and plastic surgery, and still cannot walk. He doesn't yet have enough feeling in the leg to be able to move it properly. His nerves and muscles are now reattaching, but he has lost alot of skin tissues due to the damage and may need additional skin grafts. Right now Paul doesn't want to make him have more surgeries. He has a walker but has not been able to use it well enough yet to return to school. Thankfully, his school has been very supportive and he has spent a few hours there at a time trying to keep up with the class. His mother will have scarring on her hands and legs, she put her hands between her son and the dog and was also attacked on the legs as she dragged the dog away from the boy. I know this sounds awful, but it is a harsh reality that I want everyone to hear. That Paul wants everyone to hear. This was not just a bite, this was not something that could be explained by lack of training or socialization....this was an AmStaff turning the full force of his terrier nature and fighting instinct on humans.

No ribbon is that important....no dog is so good that his temperament should be overlooked....we have seen some "soft" temperaments in all the Ruffians for some time now, and this is a tragic tragic result of not taking the problem more seriously. I have seen it myself and have not had a hard enough hand in culling these dogs. I am open to speaking with anyone who would like to hear more about the temperament issues and the pedigrees. I am also compiling some scientific information on this sort of temperament dysfunction, to try to use scientific fact to convince breeders to take temperament very, very seriously.

I hope that others take this opportunity to learn a lesson that they do not have to live themselves.

This email is being sent to non-Ruffian folks to spread the word, the truth needs to be out. Please send to others if you feel it may be constructive. If you would like to send Paul a card, email me for his address. I know this has devastated him as a parent and he is finished as a breeder. He could use some support, not blame.




rebelsyell posted at 25/10/2009 - 8:24 PM
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The dog was a decendant BTW just so you all know.




choppachop posted at 20/11/2009 - 11:13 AM
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Rebelsyell,are you saying the dog that attacked the owner with the 2 Maltese crosses was a Ruffian dog ?





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